At least Tigre have half a chance, it hasn't been dereemintd to have San Lorenzo-Boca as the final match, which is what Sam thought might happen. I'm worried that Boca will get big favours in both matches, though. While I don't think we'll ever agree on the short tournaments, Seba (I really enjoy them long tournaments would just cement a Big Four' mentality like the Premiership, with Boca, River or San Lorenzo pretty much guaranteed to be champions), I do agree about the Promedios. Get rid of them now! Why should Racing be dragged back because of previous poor coaches? Llop should have a blank canvas to work with. He hasn't done so badly so far this season, look at how awful River have been, yet they can sit back on the glory of last year. They deserve to be fighting a relegation battle after what they have been serving up this season. Also Arsenal their following' is an embarrassment. Did they get a lot of refereeing favours on their way up? It's good to see a club steeped in its local area, with a passionate group of fans, ie Tigre, doing so well this year. I wonder why anybody would be an Arsenal fan? Surely if you were from that area, you would gravitate towards Racing or Independiente. It seems like an artificial club with an artificial fanbase. Even more so than England's infamous and hated MK Dons'. At least they are serving an area with professional football that it didn't have before. One last word on the liguilla format if Tigre beat San Lorenzo, and San Lorenzo beat Boca, Tigre are champions, right? Because the best Boca could do is equal the points tally of the other two, and Tigre have beaten them both already. So would the third game even be played? If they don't change the rules from what Seba posted here a few days ago, then you have to make Tigre massive favourites, even though San Lorenzo are in the best form. A win and a draw will do for them.